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Any Old Iron 8:49 Sat Sep 3
VAR - What is it good for?

Absolutely nothing.

Say it again, yeah.

El Scorchio 8:54 Sat Sep 3
Re: VAR - What is it good for?

It’s just so frustrating when you see it used perfectly on Wednesday night with the Cresswell incident and with Everton’s goal earlier to then have it inexplicably against the video evidence gift Chelsea two points and deny us one.

master 9:03 Sat Sep 3
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It didn't even work well on Wednesday. Made the right decision but it took over 3 minutes to make.

The commentators saw 2 replays within about 30 seconds and made the right call. Why can't a var ref (should be more than 1 in reality) do the same and play continues without the stupid delay?

zico 11:33 Sat Sep 3
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It shouldn't be used to make subjective decisions, purely those based on facts. If that prat today in Stockley Park sent the Referee to the monitor then that official isn't 100% sure it is a foul. If he isn't 100% sure how can you give it? In the "good" old days whilst bloody annoying and a good subject in a pub you could accept bad decisions to an extent as human error. Now they are making decisions that arouse suspicion.

gph 2:55 Sun Sep 4
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What is it good for?

Keeping the current top teams the top teams forever.

GreenStreetPlayer 10:33 Sun Sep 4
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For those that watch horse racing a lot, they would have seen photo finishes where the TV camera angle can suggest a different outcome to the picture taken directly adjacent to the line.

Those VAR shots where they try to show a player’s toe or fingernail offside by drawing a line using a camera 40 yards down the pitch just isn’t accurate enough.

For that alone the thing should not be used.

Swiss. 11:15 Sun Sep 4
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’m for VAR and the technology but if the ref is incompetent or corrupt then it makes fuck all difference. I wish twats on here saying I don’t like VAR know the difference.

MrTrentReznor 11:21 Sun Sep 4
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VAR is a safety net for the 'bigger teams'.
It makes getting an advantageous decision more difficult for 'smaller' teams as they have to get the decision twice.
Yesterday, West Ham had to get both the on-field decision & VAR decision go their way.
Chelsea (the 'bigger' club) only had to get one decision.

VVD gets a red card for challenge yesterday if he ways playing for Everton.
Coutinho doesn't get flagged for offside if he was playing for City.

pdbis 11:38 Sun Sep 4
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To help the so-called top 6 not lose matches?

LAF 12:50 Sun Sep 4
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Why not do as they do in rugby? If ref goes to monitor, let’s hear the discussion between him and Stockley Pk. “Is there any reason why I cannot award the goal?” Let’s hear them reason it out and strive towards a decision they both would stand by.
That said, yesterday’s should have had absolutely no intervention from the busy twats.

cambsiron 1:13 Sun Sep 4
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I often go into work and ask if anyone watched the VAR match at the weekend. Would be nice if it was a football match instead.

cygnet 1:22 Sun Sep 4
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I had to listen to the second half on the car radio. For me, the main problem is you can’t celebrate a goal anymore. I was immediately waiting to hear what VAR made of it. Yet again it seemed to take ages for them to even ask the Referee to take a look.
It also didn’t help hearing the commentator and the analyst both repeatedly saying it was never a foul.
And ours wasn’t the only cock up yesterday. The Newcastle goal ruled out really was scandalous. I can only assume the VAR official there is an imbecile.
Leeds manager was sent off when they had a clear pen turned down. VAR didn’t even seem to look at that one. Mind you it’s Leeds so doesn’t matter.

zico 1:25 Sun Sep 4
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LAF 12:50 Sun Sep 4

Spot on. Either be allowed to hear the Referees rationale or insist Referees come out afterwards at a press conference to offer explanations for decisions. They won't though because they are so bad at times they won't be able to give an explanation,.

What I want to know is what the VAR Official said to the Referee. Did he say "It's a foul, go and look at the monitor". Or "I'm not sure, there might be a foul, go and look at the monitor". If he isn't sure then he can't ask the Referee to look because it's opinion, not fact, and not a clear and obvious error.

The Newcastle one yesterday. The Referee apparently wasn't given the angle to look at that conclusively proved beyond a doubt that the Newcastle player was pushed. What's the point if he isn't allowed to see that?

Anyway, as others have said we are talking about VAR rather than the game and that's not right.

GreenStreetPlayer 1:26 Sun Sep 4
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When something is taking 3 or 4 minutes to look at, you know there is uncertainty so let the decision stand rather than trying to find a reason to change it.
That was was also a danger, stopping the game for so long all glued to a fucking screen trying to analyse every movement.
Let the game flow.

goose 1:34 Sun Sep 4
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If you have to look at it a few times then it’s not clear or obvious.

Offside decision aside it shouldn’t take long.

Far Cough 1:37 Sun Sep 4
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LAF 12:50 Sun Sep 4
Re: VAR - What is it good for?
Why not do as they do in rugby? If ref goes to monitor, let’s hear the discussion between him and Stockley Pk. “Is there any reason why I cannot award the goal?” Let’s hear them reason it out and strive towards a decision they both would stand by.
That said, yesterday’s should have had absolutely no intervention from the busy twats.


This, oh and the whole thing stinks of Mike Dean

Westside 2:04 Sun Sep 4
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If you have to look at it a few times then it’s not clear or obvious.

The handball penalty incident v Spurs on Wednesday, took quite a few looks and a bit of time, to come to the correct decision.

Pedro 2:08 Sun Sep 4
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Goal line decisions.

Other than that another means to fix matches to ensure big teams win. It gets confusing when the top 6 play each other. See how they will try and avoid changing decisions in the Man Utd vs Arsenal game today.

goose 2:16 Sun Sep 4
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Westside, second angle clearly shows it hit Cresswell then hit his hand. Doesn’t need the ref to go to a screen because it’s obvious.

Same as the pen at forest, clear penalty after one or two replays.

likemydreams 2:20 Sun Sep 4
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nowt wrong with the technology it's the incompetent/corrupt/useless people using it. OK, we're usually a bit biased but anyone watching/reviewing that and thinking there was a foul ought to be embarrassed

Lee Trundle 2:57 Sun Sep 4
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"The handball penalty incident v Spurs on Wednesday, took quite a few looks and a bit of time, to come to the correct decision"

I thought I was obvious it wasn't a penalty in the first few replays and they spent the rest of the time desperately trying to find a reason to give a penalty?

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